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TommyDecember
New Member
Japanese
- Jun 11, 2008
- #1
Hello everyone!
You say;
I work here from 9 to 5.
I work here from 9 until/till 5.
But do you say ;
I work here from 9 through 5 ?
And you say;
I work here from Monday to Friday.
I work here from Monday through Friday.
But do you say ;
I work here from Monday until/till Friday ?
And could you explain differences and definitions of how to uses ?
Thank you very much for your help in advance!!
Tegs
Mód ar líne
English (Ireland)
- Jun 11, 2008
- #2
TommyDecember said:
Hello everyone!
You say;
I work here from 9 to 5.
I work here from 9 until/til 5.
But do you say ;
I work here from 9 through 5 ? Not sure about this one - maybe an American user can tell you - it's not something we say in Ireland.And you say;
I work here from Monday to Friday.
I work here from Monday through Friday. Again, American users would know.
But do you say ;
I work here from Monday til Friday ?And could you explain differences and definitions of how to uses ? Not sure how to explain - you can use them all. The only thing I would say is that the use of "through" is definitely more American than the others, which is why I'm not entirely sure how it is used.
Thank you very much for your help in advance!!
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idrawgood
New Member
Phoenix, Arizona USA
English - American
- Jun 11, 2008
- #3
You say; An additional note: till and until are proper words; however, trictly speaking, til and 'til are not acceptable forms. (I just found this out a couple weeks ago when reading Bryson's Dictionary of Troublesome Words and I was very surprised!) Hope this helps.
I work here from 9 to 5.
I work here from 9 until/till 5.
But do you say ;
I work here from 9 through 5 ?
I don't normally see or hear from 9 through 5. I'd say that's because it's a little ambiguous. Through generally means until the end of, which is not your intended meaning. For example, if you were to say, "I'll be working at this company through June," it would mean until the end of June.
And you say;
I work here from Monday to Friday.
I work here from Monday through Friday.
But do you say ;
I work here from Monday until/till Friday ?
I would say that Monday through Friday would be the most correct here, but Monday to Friday is veryc ommon. Until/till may signify you're leaving work for some reason on Friday. For example, if you say, "I'll be in Tokyo till Friday," you'd be marking a departure date.
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El escoces
Senior Member
Buenos Aires
English - UK
- Jun 12, 2008
- #4
In British English, 9 to 5 and Monday to Friday are the standard expressions.
I agree with idrawgood as regards "till/until". I would say, "I work until 5", without reference to a start-time, but
not"I work from 9 until 5". But note: I'm not saying it's wrong, just that it would only very rarely be used.
As regards the days, "This week I'm going to work till Thursday" works well; and again it would be far less common to hear "I work from Monday till Friday" (but again it's not wrong).
We never use the AE "through", meaning until, unless someone is using it as an affectation.
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El escoces
Senior Member
Buenos Aires
English - UK
- Jun 12, 2008
- #5
An additional note: till and until are proper words; however, trictly speaking, til and 'til are not acceptable forms. (I just found this out a couple weeks ago when reading Bryson's Dictionary of Troublesome Words and I was very surprised!)
According to this online dictionary entry http://www.thefreedictionary.com/till 'til is considered acceptable but strictly speaking incorrect.
British members will recall (fondly or not!) the long-running TV comedy 'Til Death Us Do Part (which I believe may have spawned a later US "version"): I'm almost certain it was "'Til" in the title.
I don't have any Shakespeare to hand, and I can't remember any of it well enough to know whether the Bard used 'til or 'till, but I'm fairly sure it would have been one or other of those abbreviations. Anyone able to check and confirm?
panjandrum
Senior Member
Belfast, Ireland
English-Ireland (top end)
- Jun 12, 2008
- #6
Surely no one could object to 'til as a contraction?
It can't be any more objectionable than can't.
See post #6 in Thug it out 'til we get it right
Hmmm ... ...
But they do, and unless you are deliberately using 'til to illustrate a manner of speaking it is probably best to avoid it.
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El escoces
Senior Member
Buenos Aires
English - UK
- Jun 12, 2008
- #7
Surely no one could object to 'til as a contraction?
Presumably it's unnecessary, given that another word ("till"), with exactly the same sound, has always been available, even before "until" came into use.
Having said that, I can't shake off a sneaking suspicion (which I guess panj shares) that 'til has long been used as a contraction of until, in the same way as "to", in certain contexts, is presumably an historic contraction of "unto" (to the manor born).
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TommyDecember
New Member
Japanese
- Jun 12, 2008
- #8
Thank you very much for your help, everyone!
I think I now begun to understand how to use these prepostions basically.
But one more question,
"I work here from April till December" is not common, too?
Thank you again!
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gratuitous
New Member
The Midwest
English - U.S.
- Jun 12, 2008
- #9
As a small side note, it sounds a little awkward to me to say "I work here from Monday through Friday." I would omit the "from" and just say "I work here Monday through Friday."
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El escoces
Senior Member
Buenos Aires
English - UK
- Jun 12, 2008
- #10
"I work here from April till December" is not common, too?
Again, it would be "from April to December", at least in British English and if you're using present tense (in past tense, it would be "I worked there from April until December", the "until" indicating an end to the period (as someone else referred to in an earlier post)).
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eloquent
Member
Czech
- Mar 11, 2015
- #11
And what about from Monday BY Friday.
It doesn't make sense to me but I would like to make sure.
Thank you.
Andygc
Senior Member
Devon
British English
- Mar 11, 2015
- #12
eloquent said:
And what about from Monday BY Friday.
It doesn't make sense.
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